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    Posted: 06 November 2009 at 2:59pm
Definitely not needed.
 
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NWA had it right.
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I wanna know what happened before that. Also, if it were an isolated problem, why were there other officers at the site?

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I'd like a story behind it but it appears unjustified.

With that said lol at holding up video tape, who uses video tape anymore?
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Yeah, without context, there is absolutely no way to judge that incident.
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack

Yeah, without context, there is absolutely no way to judge that incident.
He's standing there with his hands on the cop car, not even trying to run off. If the guy was trying to fight back or run, yeah, taze his ass. But he was standing there...
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Originally posted by __sneaky__

Originally posted by ParielIsBack

Yeah, without context, there is absolutely no way to judge that incident.
He's standing there with his hands on the cop car, not even trying to run off. If the guy was trying to fight back or run, yeah, taze his ass. But he was standing there...


Yep.

No context needed.
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Originally posted by jmac3

Originally posted by __sneaky__

Originally posted by ParielIsBack

Yeah, without context, there is absolutely no way to judge that incident.
He's standing there with his hands on the cop car, not even trying to run off. If the guy was trying to fight back or run, yeah, taze his ass. But he was standing there...


Yep.

No context needed.

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You see him for, what, 4 second before he gets tazed?

Context is critical.
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack

You see him for, what, 4 second before he gets tazed?

Context is critical.
Agreed, but the guy is standing still, hands on the car. The cop walks up in a semi-relaxed manner and the suspect does nothing but look at him. Understandable you don't see much of what is going on before this time, but I mean really? Come on.
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Apparently whatever conversation led up to the tazing resulted in the suspect giving the wrong answer. Just a guess. "Don't taze me bro!"
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The Taser has been the best and worst thing to happen.

Best: Can limit the physical damage to someone who is belligerent.

Worst: Has made for a generation of really lazy cops who resort to it left and right.

Also, fun fact - Taser is a brand name, like Kleenex or Band-Aid. Also, there is no verb form of the word because of it being a brand name. You can say that someone was shocked by a Taser, but someone cannot be "tazed." 
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There is such a thing as non-violent resistance.  Sitting or standing and not fighting, pulling, or running.  Protesters do this.  There are times where pain complience is required to detain a suspect.  Without knowing what was going on prior to this vid. it all looks very bad.  There are SOME bad cops out there that would do things like how this looks...NOT ALL COPS!
Tazers reduce injuries to both suspects and officers.  To the best of my knowlege there has not been 1 case of death that was 100% tazer caused.  There has always been a medical, drug, or some other issue.  If you have heart issues maybe you shouldn't try to hit a cap with a hammer or cause other peoblems that will get you thrown in jail. 
 
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Sitting or standing without fighting should never require a Taser...I am pretty sure they are used like you said "to reduce injuries to suspects and officers" There was no threat to the officer and using the Taser caused more harm to the suspect.

Also, I don't believe anyone has ever said using a taser causes death without other conditions. Do they check a suspects medical history before blasting them though?

The only thing the guy in this video could have been doing was running his mouth.
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Taser, people. Taser. With an "s," not a "z."

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z is a much cooler letter than s.
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It's only cooler when it has the bar through the middle.

Otherwise I'm not sure if I just wrote a 2.
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